What is Audiobus? — Audiobus isan award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you useyour other music apps together. Chain effects on your favouritesynth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app likeGarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface outputfor each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive asynth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDIkeyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear.And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.
If you are on the iPad 2 or iPad mini, you will be limited to 48 voices of polyphony (either audio or virtual instruments). If you have the iPad Retina or v4, you will be upgraded to 64 voices. Either way, this is enough to put together a decent sized project and blows Garageband’s 8 tracks well and truly out of the water. First Impressions.
Download on the App StoreAudiobus is the app that makes the rest of your setup better.
With the current Cubasis sale, now would be a good time to “upgrade” my DAW from Garageband...
I do love the workflow of Garageband (even better after the recent update) and the ability to use it on the iPhone too.
I’m just wondering what can be done in Cubasis that I can’t currently do in Garageband?
Any advice much appreciated
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I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?
To myself, the biggest difference is the layout and automations in Cubasis - everything seems so much simpler and to hand. That’s just personal though - GarageBand has never clicked with me
I could unlock my Cubase LE because I have a Yamaha mg16xu mixer, so I did just that......now I can do an iap for the full feature set for only €16,99, which is a good deal of course but already owning GB, BM 3 , Modstep and AUM so I’m trying to justify me buying this iap. Afraid I will regret it if I don’t......
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?You can use some odd time signatures in Cubasis but I'm not able to check right now to see if 9/8 or 11/8 are possible. You can't change time signatures or tempo in a project. Auria pro is able to do that but to be honest you're probably better off using a DAW on a computer if you want to be able to play with time.
Thanks guys.
I’ve seen talk about “freezing” tracks in Cubasis, is this the same as ‘merge’ in GB?
It also looks like midi editing might be a bit easier Cubasis..?
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?Doesn’t Garageband do 6/8 as well? I think only Auria Pro has these kind of odd signatures, grids etc., plus tempo changes if you’re into progressive music. But Auria Pro has a learning curve, more like ProTools and Logic than Garageband or Cubasis.
Freezing tracks is more or less like merging, yes. I don’t like the fact Garageband duplicates the project every time you merge a song.
- edited November 2017
To me the big difference in these two apps is how open they are. Garageband is a closed wall environment IMO - the only way to get stems out is to mute tracks and export them one by one. I love Garageband's interface though, so this limitation of not being able further manipulate what you produce in GB is frustrating. Getting MIDI and audio in and out of Cubasis is a breeze.
- edited November 2017
MultiTrackStudio also has a tempo and time signature editor, (type in whatever you want) and is able to change either one mid-song. Cubasis does time signature in 4ths only 1/4-7/4
@ecamburn said:
To me the big difference in these two apps is how open they are. Garageband is a closed wall environment IMO - the only way to get stems out is to mute tracks and export them one by one. I love Garageband's interface though, so this limitation of not being able further manipulate what you produce in GB is frustrating. Getting MIDI and audio in and out of Cubasis is a breeze.Well, I was a PC user. Now that I switched to Mac, I can continue the project in GB or Logic on the Mac. And all the sounds are there
Cubasis will do 2/4 through 7/4 (previous version; I have not yet looked at the update.)
@Keenan
For me, GB has lots of cool sounds and the Live Loops workflow going for it, but I never felt comfortable trying to build stuff in the piano roll midi editor. I much prefer to do regular linear style tracks in Cubasis. Also as noted previously, GB is a pain to try to get it to work with other apps. Not impossible, but a drag compared to Cubasis.
The freeze in Cubasis bakes all the Midi and effects on a Midi track to an Audio track, like a pre-render. It saves on a lot of processing.
Cubasis is on sale right now, GB is FREE (and you already have it I see). I recommend both if you have the space for them.@CracklePot said:
@Keenan
For me, GB has lots of cool sounds and the Live Loops workflow going for it, but I never felt comfortable trying to build stuff in the piano roll midi editor. I much prefer to do regular linear style tracks in Cubasis. Also as noted previously, GB is a pain to try to get it to work with other apps. Not impossible, but a drag compared to Cubasis.
The freeze in Cubasis bakes all the Midi and effects on a Midi track to an Audio track, like a pre-render. It saves on a lot of processing.
Cubasis is on sale right now, GB is FREE (and you already have it I see). I recommend both if you have the space for them.Thanks, yeah it looks like Cubasis is more open ended. I guess I use GB as the “final destination” in the workflow, instead of trying to get GB instruments out (which would be great) to avoid frustration. AUs have made things a lot easier.
To be honest I don’t see myself making much use of piano roll note entering as it’s not as fun for me.
One thing I would like to know is if AUM only really works with Cubasis (I’ve seen Doug do it), or is there any way this could work with GB? I love being able to layer synths and fx in AUM for live playing but would ideally like to record directly onto a track in GB instead of using AudioShare as the go between... I’ve tried Audiobus 2 with AUM as ‘in slot’ and GB as out... it just crashes in audiobus@Keenan Yes it works! AUM can be hosted as an IAA source inside of GB. I just tested it and it seems to work great.
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan Yes it works! AUM can be hosted as an IAA source inside of GB. I just tested it and it seems to work great.Wow I was totally over complicating that, thanks so much!!
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).@Keenan said:
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan Yes it works! AUM can be hosted as an IAA source inside of GB. I just tested it and it seems to work great.Wow I was totally over complicating that, thanks so much!!
To do the layer setup in AUM, you should send all of your synths to a AUM bus, load that bus on its own track in AUM as the input, then send the track output to GB. I think GB will only input one thing at a time, and if this is the case, premixing in AUM is the way to go.
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
@Keenan said:
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
I think there is a new workflow using the Files app on iOS 11. @samu is a true GB guru (actually a sort of all-knowing sage), hopefully he will weigh in and help you out.
As far as 24 bit goes- probably not necessary for just fiddling about, but I would definitely use it if I was doing something I cared about and quality was a major factor.- edited November 2017
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
I think there is a new workflow using the Files app on iOS 11. @samu is a true GB guru (actually a sort of all-knowing sage), hopefully he will weigh in and help you out.
As far as 24 bit goes- probably not necessary for just fiddling about, but I would definitely use it if I was doing something I cared about and quality was a major factor.GarageBand can work in 24-bit if enabled in it's settings.
So yeah, the flow is, GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis
(If Cubasis had Files.app support you could skip the step with AudioShare, and actually you can if you use 'Open In...' from GarageBand).Actually any 'Document Manager' that is visible to the Files.app will do, it does't have to be AudioShare.
If one needs to download files from the Internet or Networked resources (NAS etc.) I recommend Documents by Readle (it works in perfect harmony with the Files.app). The cool thing with Documents is that once you've set up your networked resources they are accessible from the standard Document Picker... (Say hello to direct import of files from your computers hard-drive).
@Samu said:
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
I think there is a new workflow using the Files app on iOS 11. @samu is a true GB guru (actually a sort of all-knowing sage), hopefully he will weigh in and help you out.
As far as 24 bit goes- probably not necessary for just fiddling about, but I would definitely use it if I was doing something I cared about and quality was a major factor.GarageBand can work in 24-bit if enabled in it's settings.
So yeah, the flow is, GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis
(If Cubasis had Files.app support you could skip the step with AudioShare, and actually you can if you use 'Open In...' from GarageBand).Actually any 'Document Manager' that is visible to the Files.app will do, it does't have to be AudioShare.
If one needs to download files from the Internet or Networked resources (NAS etc.) I recommend Documents by Readle (it works in perfect harmony with the Files.app). The cool thing with Documents is that once you've set up your networked resources they are accessible from the standard Document Picker... (Say hello to direct import of files from your computers hard-drive).
This sounds a lot like the Audioshare FTP server I wished was general feature in Files. Thanks @samu
Keenan. GB,s “Final Destination”. Doesn’t have to be there ,with the use of Mastering apps ie, Final Touch,etc.can add some super touches to the finished artical. I also noticed after recording throug AudioBus the apps I’ve used appear in recorded track icon in GB,very helpful
You guys have been super helpful, thanks again!
I’ll have to pick your brains again soon I’m sure, but I’ll leave that for another day.
Hopefully I can return the favor... anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?
@Keenan said:
Hopefully I can return the favor... anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?If you post them, they will come.
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
Hopefully I can return the favor... anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?If you post them, they will come.
Dropbox link the only way?
@Keenan said:
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
Hopefully I can return the favor... anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?If you post them, they will come.
Dropbox link the only way?
Not sure if it's the only way, but it will work fine. I seem to recall others sharing stuff by way of Dropbox.
I tried to use GB to put down a sketch of an idea of a song that was knocking in my head lately. There was too much latency on the Guitar that I plugged in so I ended up using Cubasis and did whatever I wanted quite quickly.
So the answer is Cubasis. You don’t even need to get any iAPs as you could use external plug ins and export the mixdown to Audio Mastering or Final Cut for Mastering.
@yowza said:
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?You can use some odd time signatures in Cubasis but I'm not able to check right now to see if 9/8 or 11/8 are possible. You can't change time signatures or tempo in a project. Auria pro is able to do that but to be honest you're probably better off using a DAW on a computer if you want to be able to play with time.
@theconnactic said:
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?Doesn’t Garageband do 6/8 as well? I think only Auria Pro has these kind of odd signatures, grids etc., plus tempo changes if you’re into progressive music. But Auria Pro has a learning curve, more like ProTools and Logic than Garageband or Cubasis.
Freezing tracks is more or less like merging, yes. I don’t like the fact Garageband duplicates the project every time you merge a song.
It seems Auria Pro would be a nice option for me. I don't want to use a computer because all I have is a shitty old one and I like working on my ipad. Thanks for the responses!
Cubasis 2 in all its glory. Here you can see the new Channel Strip insert, and note the new Auto Quantise setting in the Quantise pop-over.
When I reviewed the first version of Cubasis, back in the March 2013 issue, I concluded that it was “a very promising mobile music-making tool that could shine if Steinberg iron out the initial quirks and bugs and keep the app up to date”. And, in the nearly four years since the app was released, to their credit, Steinberg have done just that, with a steady stream of 1.x updates. These releases have included (take a deep breath) support for Audiobus and Inter-App Audio, the ability to have 24 inputs and outputs and utilise higher sampling rates, support for MIDI Clock and other MIDI messages, the Micrologue virtual analogue synth, track freezing, automation, audio output via Bluetooth, AirPlay, and HDMI, Bluetooth MIDI, MiniSampler and 64-bit support. So yes, Steinberg have done far more than simply keep the app ‘up to date’.
The first thing you’ll notice after downloading Cubasis 2 is what Steinberg describe as a “carefully redesigned user interface”. This essentially amounts to a flatter, cleaner design that’s a little crisper and more pleasing to the eye than previous versions.
One of the headline features is real-time time-stretching, thanks to the inclusion of Zplane’s Elastique 3. Say you add a drum loop from the Media Bay and want it to play back at the same tempo as your project; simply select the Event, tap the new Stretch button on the Tools panel, and a pop-over will appear, giving you the option to automatically or manually stretch the Event. If you select Auto, the Event will be stretched to fit the appropriate tempo (the supplied loops are embedded with tempo information); whereas if you select Manual, you can adjust the stretch factor by dragging two triangular handles that appear at the start and end of the Event.
An additional setting hidden behind an arrow lets you set the algorithm that’s used between Pro, Efficient and Mobile — Pro being the best, Mobile the worst, and Efficient somewhere in between. The algorithm you choose correlates to the CPU overhead, so users with older iPads may need to choose the lower-quality algorithms. With a drum loop, you could hear a difference between Pro and Mobile, although this was, of course, most noticeable when slowing a loop down rather than speeding it up.
Alongside the ability to time-stretch an Event, Elastique 3 is also used to provide pitch-shifting with formant correction. To pitch-shift an Event, simply select it and tap the Transpose button on the Tools panel. A Transport pop-over will appear, giving you three sliders to adjust the pitch in cents, semitones and octaves, plus two additional sliders to adjust Formant Shift and Formant Order. As with time-stretching, you have the same three algorithms available, although formant adjustments can only be made when using Pro. And it’s worth noting that if you apply time-stretching and pitch-shifting to the same Event, the same algorithm must be chosen for both.
Several new effects are provided in Cubasis 2, starting with the Channel Strip insert. Presumably borrowing from Cubase’s Channel Strip (certainly the knobs look the same), Cubasis’ strip offers a cut filter, a noise gate with side-chain, a compressor and a saturator offering both tape and tube modes. By default, Channel Strip is placed before StudioEQ in the signal flow, but you can tap a pair of arrows on the insert slot to reverse this order if you wish. There’s also a new insert called Spin FX that can produce stutters, tape stops, filter effects, and other DJ-like moves and is fully automatable. This is similar to the Remix FX controls Apple added in GarageBand 2.1, although while these are only available on the master output in GarageBand, Spin FX can be added as an insert to any track or output.
If you require additional effects, Cubasis has supported Audio Unit Extensions since v1.9.8, and in version 1.9 Steinberg began offering two additional FX Packs, which are more or less essential £4.99$6.99 in-app purchases if you find yourself really getting into the app. Pack 1 includes Tape Delay, Stereo Delay, Long Delay, Stereo Width, Non-Linear Reverb and Early Reflections, while Pack 2 offers Pan & Tremolo, Rotary Speaker, Bit Reduction, TalkBox, Wah Pedal and Enhancer. It’s just a shame Steinberg don’t now offer these as Audio Unit Extensions in version 2 so they could appeal to a wider range of users. And speaking of Audio Unit Extensions, it’s still not possible to automate these as you can with the internal effects.
Falling into the category of last-but-not-least, Steinberg have (finally) added an Auto Quantise option, along with additional presets for Micrologue and a number of ‘TAPE’ instruments for MicroSonic that add some Mellotron-inspired sounds to your palette. The only thing I wish Steinberg would have added is a Tempo Track, although such an omission is pretty common amongst iOS apps.
Cubasis 2 requires at least iOS 8.3 and is fully compatible with iOS 10 (I tested it on a 9.7-inch iPad Pro running iOS 10.0.1). Initially, when I saw the name of the app had changed to Cubasis 2, I assumed this would require a new purchase (as when Intua released Beatmaker 2 or WaveMachine Lab’s Auria became Auria Pro), but this is gratifyingly not the case. Cubasis 2 is an update like any other if you’ve already purchased the app. For new users, Cubasis 2 is priced at £39.99$49.99.
A second, LE version of Cubasis is also available with fewer features, and while it’s freely downloadable from the App Store, it will only run for 30 minutes in demo mode unless you connect a compatible Steinberg or Yamaha interface. LE can be upgraded to the full version for the slightly reduced price of £22.99$29.99.
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In terms of functionality, Cubasis 2 sits somewhere between GarageBand and Auria Pro (which costs the same), although the latter’s more sophisticated features arguably come at the cost of a less-friendly user interface. If you’re a Cubase user, the ability to start a project in Cubasis and transfer it to Cubase via the Cubasis Project Importer is obviously rather convenient. And even if you’re not, you should at least check out the LE demo as, overall, Steinberg have really done — and indeed are doing — a fine job with Cubasis.
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